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Patent Questions and Advice / Suggestion
« on: December 01, 2014, 01:13:03 PM »
Hey Brad. I have a suggestion to add to the. Uhm. To the webpage where you explain stuff to the members who buy the service. The page with the template link and the videos and the explanation. You know what I'm talking about.

Anyway. Last night I was filing a provisional patent. Started on USTPO website around ~12:48 AM or so. (It was December 1st already for us East Coasters. I live in NY)

So I filled my name and address in and uploaded the files, and I'm on the "Review" page, clicking the PDF links to make sure they're correct. Suddenly one of the PDF links to a new tab with a 404 error. (It's ~1 AM.) I go back a step in the filing process using the tabs on the top and my current filing information is lost and it starts me over at the very first page where you have to enter your name and patent type. And I have to re-enter all of the information.

I'm not sure if this is because it was a specific time, or because it was a change of date/month, or something like that. I didn't refresh the page or wait too long on any page or anything like that, and my internet didn't die.

So I just refilled everything and paid and it worked out fine.

I just suggest adding a disclaimer for other members to see that, "When filing if you're using the USTPO website around midnight or 1 AM or during a month change, be careful when the clock strikes a new hour because the website becomes funny and may make you start the filing process all over."

It's not really a big deal to re-enter the information, but it might become weird when entering credit card info or if you end up submitting the patent and like the website wants to give you two different confirmation/patent numbers or something.

Just a suggestion to help others out.

PatentFile Website Questions and Reviews / PatentFile Review
« on: December 01, 2014, 01:00:16 PM »
Hey guys. I just wanted to give a review of's service for anyone who is curious.

For reference, I bought Provisional Basic package in the summer of 2013, and I've had it for ~1.5 years in my pocket until I figured out exactly what it was that I wanted to patent. To my surprise, having recently relooked at prices, that basic package costs $150 now. I paid $85 when I bought it. You guys really should jump on this opportunity now, because you never know what's going to happen. You don't know how glad I am that I bought it when I did even if I didn't use it immediately.

As for what you get with the Basic package, first you get a microsoft word document that serves as a template you fill in for your own patent. It was everything in the order the patent office requires, and it has comments explaining formatting and what each section should do. You also get access to a web page on this website that has detailed instructions for every part of the patent (including videos with examples), as well as a couple of sections on other files you have to prepare for the patent office and how you actually file the patent (videos included).

But is the service actually worth it? Absolutely.

I've looked at other online resources and there are some other templates out there, but none of them are specific enough to really be helpful. You can kind of blind guess what you can put in each section and maybe it'll work, but with PatentFile you know exactly what to write, how long each section should be, what to do to make the patent stronger, and really most importantly how to actually file the patent and the accompanying documents. Even if it was possible to blindly write the patent based on random free google advice, dealing with USTPO website is a nightmare, especially with the extra documents you have to prepare. Brad links everything you're going to need, shows you how to fill the documents out, and guides you through that process step by step so that nothing is unclear and you know exactly what to do.

If you're thinking of filing a patent or if you think you'll have an invention idea any time in the future, I really do recommend getting this service. It's completely worth it.

Thanks Brad.

General Non-Inventing Discussion / Trademarks
« on: January 22, 2014, 12:05:02 AM »
This isn't really a question or a patent thing, but it's kind of correlated since trademarks fall under the USTPO's jurisdiction.

Apparently Candy Crush Saga (mobile app game) filed a trademark for the word "candy" and they just won it. What........................Not sure how that's possible.

Oh and I don't just mean they reserved the word for phone apps, but its for basically everything.

Personally the game isn't even that good. I downloaded it once to see the hype (because they advertise like crazy for it) and it wasn't fun. (I'm afraid to say anything too negative.) I guess they have some pro lawyers.

Just wanted to share this ridiculous thing lol. (I'm about to go trademark the word "the." Watch out, everyone.)

I want to buy a package from you (the $85 one) but I already sort of have a username and it wants me to create a new one.

Which isn't the actual problem. The problem is that my grandma told me she'd fund this business opportunity, and if I use her credit card...does that mean I have to use her name for my profile name? Or do you not even need the proper name for the credit card billing section to work?

I'm just curious before I proceed. Or is this the kind of thing that's like "try making a profile with your name and if the credit card goes through, you're good."

Patent Questions and Advice / Google Patent Search
« on: August 15, 2013, 10:21:49 PM »
I'm not really asking a question here, just bringing up a discussion, per se.

I had called a patent library place that was registered on USTPO website and got the advice to do a quick google patent search on my idea(s) to gauge how to improve my own idea by looking at similar inventions.

But...if you didn't hear, some people in a house googled certain words and the police came knocking on their door, since google lets the government see information on people and stuff.

So now I question how secure a google patent search really is. What if someone sees your idea? I'd like to think that it's sensitive info they can't use, but how can you be sure? Think twice before searching, eh?

I don't think this has anything to do with patents so much as it does with ideas and business.

Alright here's the situation. I have an idea for an App. A phone app. However, I have no programming/coding knowledge. I have two options from here:

1. Hire someone/a group to make the app. Then I have to buy an Apple's license or whatever to put it on the app store. I think this will cost a lot of money of do. (Correct me if you know otherwise.) This is probably the biggest headache [of these choices] but also the one that will likely yield me the most profit.

2. Go to a company/organization that already has an app in the same area (although it's quite a different concept/idea from what their app is), tell them the idea, have them do all the work programming and selling the app.

[3. Learning programming myself, it's just not gonna happen.]

I'd like to pursue option (2) but I'm worried these guys may steal my idea. Do you think a nondisclosure agreement is enough if I speak to them? How well do you think this would work since I only have the "idea" and can't even make the product myself? Is there any other business plan you think is worth trying over what I've mentioned?

P.S. This is where it gets a little tricky. I don't see how the company who has this app makes any profit from the app itself. The app has no advertisements and it's free to download. The only thing I can see is that the name of the app is the company website so...maybe it's just a self advertisement feature for them?

P.S.S. Just in case anyone is dead curious, the app is gas buddy.

I couldn't find a good place to put this so I guess this will suffice, but I have a suggestion/request regarding your patent newsletters, and maybe future people will have recommendations. I'm not sure if you're open to these or have already done one of these but I'll ask anyway.

I'd like to see a newsletter on "searching for patents" or "searching for inventions" or something along those lines. I won't go into specifics, take it as is.

I'd also like to know a little information on how newsletters are made. I assume you pick a topic you think will be well reciprocated and write about it? And also, do you have a database of newsletters for people who have registered recently and might have missed a few? If you don't have one, you should think about making one.

Also, you might want to keep a thread (or forum) open for making suggestions for newsletters.

Thanks a bunch Brad.

Patent Questions and Advice / Sports "Stat" Patentable?
« on: June 21, 2013, 12:46:56 PM »
Hey Brad,

First of all, I'd like to thank you for all the help you've given me with the information provided on your website.

Now then, I have a question about what is patentable, because the situation is a little unorthodox. I'd like to create a sports formula/statistic to measure the value of a certain something. I know I'm being very vague so let me further clarify with an example:

In basketball there are a few recorded stats that portray what a player does during a game (points scored, assists, rebounds, blocks, steals, etc). Most basketball fans would see these stats and be able to know how well a player was playing for a particular game by his stat line.

However, John Hollinger, a sports writer, devised a formula for combining all recorded stats in one and deemed it "Player Efficiency Rating."

This "PER" isn't an official stat "recognized" by the NBA, but it is widely considered and quoted as a good metric for judging a player's performance by both analysts and fans.

Is a statistic like that patentable? I haven't found any patent that he owns (or trademark) for it, however everyone knows that he is the man who invented it, just because of his prior fame as an ESPN sports writer/analyst.

I'm aware that "math formulas" are not patentable, but the applications of formulas are. Do you think this could be considered an application of a formula? (And if so, would it be of the utility class? Would I be able to file a provisional patent for such a thing?) Of course, I'd be doing possibly a different sport and making something else.

Thanks a ton,

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