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Thanks Brad,
Thats actually quite helpful. If there is no clear cut ruling about it then it is probably ok as long as common sense is used.
In this case a social media group is used purely to communicate between beta testers to share experiences and ideas. There is no selling or promotion going on.
This could easily be demonstrated if needed by simply adding the interested party to the group and having them peruse the discussion.

Thanks for the great read about the 102 date Brad!

My question is, if I am using a closed social media group (i.e. invite only, no detailed information is disclosed publicly), for the purpose of communicating with test users of a product, will this create a 102 date?

Thanks Brad,

I did check and was told that it should be ok to file locally.
Australia does support PCT and I am not aware of any permission requirements for foreign licencing.

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Patent Questions and Advice / Overseas inventor filing for PPA in US
« on: April 28, 2019, 10:29:19 PM »
Hi Brad.
I am a non-US resident and I intend to submit my invention to a number of US companies for licencing.
Presumably when converting a PPA to a non-provisional, the patent will cover a number of countries (PCT).

Does it make any difference position if I file for a PPA in my country of residence (Australia) or in the US?

The reason I ask is because it appears that the registration process for the USPTO online filing system is quite complex and requires numerous Patent Electronic System Verification forms to be snail mailed to them before a I can get approval to submit a PPA.
This will undoubtedly take weeks and time is of essence, whereas I can file it locally within a day.

Patent Questions and Advice / Re: PPA - How much detail is too much?
« on: April 24, 2019, 01:16:42 AM »
Thanks Brad. That is comforting!

On the same track, would putting numerous claims into a PPA be appropriate as well?
I understand that many claims will be rejected when converting to a full patent, and quite likely that the embodiment of the invention will change.

Is therefore unnecessary to be fixated on claims at all?

Consider using online services such as Fivver or Guru.

They can often convert your sketches into workable designs to get 3d printed or machined for very low costs.

Patent Questions and Advice / PPA - How much detail is too much?
« on: April 21, 2019, 07:16:20 AM »

I am drafting a PPA for a kitchen apparatus. I have gone into great detail (approx 4000 words and 14 drawings) describing the various preferred components and methods of operation, both in general and specific terms.

I have built a crude proof of concept prototype, but the PPA describes a much more detailed embodiment, that is yet to be proven physically.
The mechanisms are fairly simple, but the description describes them in detail even though (in my opinion) the functions are quite obvious.

My question is can you go into too much detail? Or is it better to leave a PPA more general and add the specific detail later when converting to a full patent?

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