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patent Multiple dependent claim

patent Multiple dependent claim
« on: March 21, 2015, 07:46:44 PM »
patent Multiple dependent claim

when writing claims
how do you know if any are considered a Multiple dependent claim?

Thanks
Sam

Re: patent Multiple dependent claim
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2015, 10:24:59 AM »
I was wondering if this claim counts as 11

https://www.google.com/patents/US5915941?dq=fishing+light+pipe+us&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-L0OVdGYLpP7gwTXpoSYAw&ved=0CDMQ6wEwAw

and this claim counts as 19

https://www.google.com/patents/US5416676?dq=A+submersible+lighting+device+comprising:+a+transparent+rigid+housing,+an+input+electrical+cord+for+providing+power+to+the+device,+a+fluorescent+tubular+light+bulb+disposed+within+the+housing,+the+tubular+light+bulb+having+a+first+end+and+a+second+end&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tMAOVYTSM5KOyASzwILwCg&ved=0CB4Q6wEwAA

and if any of them are considered INDEPENDENT CLAIMS
and what the fees would be for independent claims for a MICRO PATENT FILING?

Thanks
Sam


6.4. Dependent Claims
•   (a) Any claim which includes all the features of one or more other claims (claim in dependent form, hereinafter referred to as “dependent claim”) shall do so by a reference, if possible at the beginning, to the other claim or claims and shall then state the additional features claimed. Any dependent claim which refers to more than one other claim (“multiple dependent claim”) shall refer to such claims in the alternative only. Multiple dependent claims shall not serve as a basis for any other multiple dependent claim. Where the national law of the national Office acting as International Searching Authority does not allow multiple dependent claims to be drafted in a manner different from that provided for in the preceding two sentences, failure to use that manner of claiming may result in an indication under Article 17 (2)(b) in the international search report. Failure to use the said manner of claiming shall have no effect in a designated State if the manner of claiming actually used satisfies the national law of that State.
•   (b) Any dependent claim shall be construed as including all the limitations contained in the claim to which it refers or, if the dependent claim is a multiple dependent claim, all the limitations contained in the particular claim in relation to which it is considered.
•   (c) All dependent claims referring back to a single previous claim, and all dependent claims referring back to several previous claims, shall be grouped together to the extent and in the most practical way possible.



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Re: patent Multiple dependent claim
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2015, 11:11:10 AM »
In your example
https://www.google.com/patents/US5915941?dq=fishing+light+pipe+us&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-L0OVdGYLpP7gwTXpoSYAw&ved=0CDMQ6wEwAw
claims 1, 4, 8, and 9 are the "independent" claims.  You can tell because google idents them to the left.  You can also tell independent claims because they do not reference another claim number.

You can see the fee list for numbers of claims here:

http://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/fees-and-payment/uspto-fee-schedule#Patent Fees

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Re: patent Multiple dependent claim
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2015, 03:15:12 PM »
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