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patent a system or patent components/sub-systems?

patent a system or patent components/sub-systems?
« on: October 24, 2018, 02:04:22 PM »
Let's say there is a complex analytic device (system) which consists of 4 or 5 sub-systems or components. These sub-systems or components are not simple as well. We have some new ideas on two of these components which will make a new system much better than these on the markets.

Our questions are the following:

1. If we patent these two components, other people cannot use them in any places. I am right?

2. If we patent the system, other people can use these two components’ idea on any other new system which is different from ours or in different fields. I am right?

Thanks,
James

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Re: patent a system or patent components/sub-systems?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2018, 02:10:25 PM »
Very generally "yes" your statements are correct.   If possible it is usually best and strongest to get protection on the core elements or pieces of the system rather than the entire system.

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Re: patent a system or patent components/sub-systems?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2018, 11:04:08 AM »
Let me ask you this way:

A system consists of A, B, C, D components. If we have a new A2 and a new C2, then:

Option 1: we claim to have a new system consists of A2, B, C2, D.

    Q1: If somebody has a new idea on component B, which is call B2,  can she/he claim a new
           system consists of A2, B2, C2, D, even though the A2 and C2 are ours?


Option 2: we claim to have a new components A2 for the mentioned system and also claim to have a new component C2 for the mentioned system.

    Q2: If somebody has a new idea on component B, which is call B2,  can she/he claim a new
          system consists of A2, B2, C2, D, even though the A2 and C2 are ours?

Q3: In above case Option 2. do we have to file two separate patents? Or we can file them together with ONE patent and they are still protected as two separate components?

Q4: Can we directly file non-provisional patent because we want to know our patent is good or not, that is, can be granted or not.

Q5: The patent protection is not only on manufacturing but also on selling?

Thanks,
James